My Phone Conversation With Christine Duminiak (adc)

[WendyJ]

Well I had my session with Christine Duminiak tonight and she is an amazing, wonderful person. She is so informative and made me realize that some of the things that have been happening are signs from Steve, such as my smallest dog who is only 4 lbs and really doesn't have much of a voice at all is barking at me everynight about the same time with alot of intensity and actually BARKING ! She had someone come to her last night while she was saying her prayers that she had never met before and she described him and I have to tell you I think it was Steve, I just sent her a picture and am waiting for her to tell me if it was him but this person was praying with her. Also about the time we were discussing signs with electrical and phones her phone started fluttering so bad, when it stopped she started again talking about it and again the phone got so bad she had to hang up and call me back. We both wondered if that was a sign from Steve also. Overall it was a wonderful experience that I am glad I had with her and now that I know of other signs to watch out for I am looking forward to more.

Love,

Wendy

[Stallyn]

Wendy,

wow you finally got answers to your questions, interesting about the phone, always something happens when you are talking about them, did I tell you some time ago my torchiere was blinking rapidly while my counselor was here, and I learned they can also guide us with angels to make crucial decisions, I read some of her works and very intriquing. Now you will have your faith to lead you, Awesome!!!! feel free to IM me if anything else happens, I'd like to know softly

P.s do you have things break apart for no reason? like drinking glasses or things falling gently and shattering?

Love,

William

[suzanne]

Wendy

So glad you had contact with Steve. It really is an amazing experience. Does it not give you a feeling of peace to know he is around you? For me, that was all I needed to know to begin healing although slowly it is a start. What are the other signs to watch for that they are with us?

William - I have never had glasses breaking but I believe that could be a sign as well.

Suzanne

[missingcharlie]

I have met Christine along with Sunni Wells (her partner). Sunni lives in Sedona AZ and I live in AZ and went to a group session she had here, along with my motherinlaw & sisterinlaw. The group session was very difficult because there were so many people that by the time she got to us she was running out of time so cut it very short (so at that time I wasn't impressed). Since that time both my motherinlaw & sisterinlaw have had phone sessions with Sunni and were both VERY impressed.

I'm glad it well for you!!

Hugs!

Patti

[Stallyn]

Suzanne,

I seen many things without logical reason break on its own, does not make real sense.

Is Christine a believer in Christ? I was wondering, perhaps I'll give her a buzz

and see what she knows. Somehow I think my loss has heightened the ability to sense spirits. It is very disturbing at times, but the bible mentions many spiritual gifts. and every Christian has at least one, I have at least 4. But I don't want to tread in unknown territory.

[kayc]

I looked her up on line, the first time you call it's $60.00. I don't know anything about her but that's a pretty good income. I think for that, I could help people talk to their loved ones! I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone, it's tempting for me to call her myself, I'm just leery of those that make so much money off of other people's vulnerability. If it was $30/hour I'd think it was more acceptable.

[DesertBob]

That is pretty relative and subjective. $30/hr before taxes and expenses and allowing for the fact that doing that sort of work you seldom get more than about 20 billable hours in a week unless you work > 40 hours, means she would be making not much more than a clerk at McDonald's. I am not defending her, as I don't know her from eve, but if she can deliver what she promises it's surely worth more than that.

Some of the mediums with national reputations get $1200/hr and more. Is that soaking people? Well not really, it just reflects demand which in turn (roughly) reflects how good they are at what they do and/or how good their BS is. Charging what the market will bear is not inherently gross, immoral, or fattening. If the prevailing rates are too high, then more vendors are needed to fulfill the demand. You won't fix anything by charging less.

I know something about this because as a by the hour consultant myself, I have made in the past 3 year time frame, various hourly rates representing a top end that's three times above the bottom end. There is no objective value for my time, it just depends on market conditions, the difficulty of the available work, and the availability of competitors who are willing to work for less. The closest you can come to putting a value on my time is to average the hourly rate I've made over the last 5 years. But I guarantee you that some people would rather die than pay me that rate, and others would dismiss me as an amateur because that rate is lower than they expect.

It's all about perceptions and supply vs demand.

If someone could give me an genuine, undeniable, unambiguous one hour chat with Linda, $1200 would seem like peanuts. However my definitions of the above three terms are pretty stringent ;-)

--Bob

[kayc]

Well considering a few years ago she was a stay at home mom, I'd say she's doing pretty well for herself, and judging from how she handles her appointments, I'd also venture to guess she works pretty regularly, so she takes in four times what I do without the commute. I guess if that's a bargain, great. I don't doubt any of us would pay that to talk to our dearly departed...just call me skeptical.

[Stallyn]

So she charges for the consultations? that in my opinion, (no offense) is unbiblical, the bible states the gifts from God are not to be profited on, it is an abomination, Don't we all have the ability to pray and seek answers w/o the use of a medium? I think that is dangerous ground to ponder in, I state this after years living in the charismatic movement with faith healers, prophets that mislead. and believing in anything that they said including messages from the deceased. What is your take on this Bob?

[Quilter5]

Wendy,

I don't know who this Christine person is... but be very leery of her. Leviticus 19:31 says "DO NOT DEFILE YOURSELVES BY TURNING TO MEDIUMS OR TO THOSE WHO CONSULT THE SPIRITS OF THE DEAD. I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD." Go straight through Jesus - - - it costs nothing, and it will be the REAL thing.

Every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist. Tread lightly,and don't waste your money.

God Bless & Hugs

Chris (Quilter5)

[karenb]

Well, Kay, Chris, William....I very much lean towards what you're saying. I believe we should go to our Lord on our own. I went to a medium many years ago and it wasn't the thing I should have done. To me it seems that in the pain we have we want answers right now, and growing in wisdom doesn't happen over night but in learning over a period of time. We just need to trust that over time we're growing and learning and becoming the people we want to be...on our own.

Your friend, Karen

[Stallyn]

Guys,

maybe I went off the top end, I am sensitive to objects and people around me, and it was fear for those opening a door, Perhaps allowing our spouses to reach us is the key, when I did not look, things happened around me frequently. Out of concern for those that seek the mediums or shamans, there is a price to be paid for that service. I shall pray for you that need a sign, God will do according to his will.

[karenb]

William....as your surrogate mother, I just love you! You know, the opinion I expressed is just mine and I respect, very much, how others feel about these things.

Karen

[Stallyn]

Karen,

I had a big smile hearing from you!! We understand each other, where can we get that?

[karenb]

Dear William....We have similar experiences and probably connect on that. I have to let you know that my Danny, who was with me at Thanksgiving, is doing so much better on these new meds. He actually smiles and offers conversation, whereas before he would just be quiet and only just answer questions and offer little information. His new job doing janitorial work on the Canadian border is exciting for him as he'll get more money and that should be happening soon. Being on SSI he can only make so much, but I do my best getting extra food and clothes and he's doing fine. I am so proud. I don't know about your work or daily life, but it sounds like you do pretty well and I'm glad for that. We just need to give thanks for little things, right? This thanks I have tends to be kind of bittersweet right now. I have come a long way, but I miss my wonderful husband. You take care, my friend, you're doing beautifully in your great little soul.

Karen

[Stallyn]

Karen,

I feel the connection too, what we experience and learn, wow, to talk to you knowing where I am coming from is a relief *sigh*

Danny is on the right course now, isn't it amazing what a little medication can help a person, especially his diagnosis is tricky to treat, I hope they treat him right. I have gone into a retirement about 4 years ago from most things I used to enjoy, with bipolar and chrohns it is very complicated to know what day is good or not. Sometimes they collide and I get sick to my stomach. I am doing ok financially, but its not much, going tomorrow to reevaluate my financial goals and try to stretch another $150 to my monthly quota.

Bittersweet every day, yes, its so hard to allow ourselves to feel good. I miss the support she gave me, and so many quirks that made me laugh.

[karenb]

Well, it's just a plain dog gone difficult life a lot of the time, but it helps me to talk about it. I have this wonderful 75-year-old lady friend from church that has such a gigantic heart it's fantastic. Every new baby in the church she makes a quilt for...totally gives from her heart. Today at a lady's group meeting I go to on Tuesday's things came up that made me look at her with tears in my eyes, and I got the biggest hug of comfort ever. Those precious hugs mean so much! I hope you get them...they're important. You have a peaceful evening, my friend.....here's my hug!!!

Karen

[karenb]

You know, I've had many things happen over the years to me, alone, and to Jack and I together. He just shook his head and said, "That's you, my dear." I have a 3-foot wicker angel on a beam in the loft bedroom looking out over the house that flew down in front of the fireplace. When I put it back up facing the bedroom, it never moved again. After my precious Aunt died, the teacups I had hanging on pegs just moved whenever they wanted. Jack just said, "Auntie Mylda is here again," and we'd laugh. There are many things and who knows how they happen? I just think there are wonderful little angels helping us here and there with God's wisdom.

Karen

[DesertBob]

William,

The charismatic movement? Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. By and large I agree with you.

As for the mediums, I am way more open to new-agey sorts of things than I've ever been, but twice nothing is still nothing ;-)

Science has taken an interest in these things of late -- there is a prof. at U of A who is doing double-blind studies of mediums and has concluded that there is in fact life after death. There is also the "induced" after-death communication phenomenon that spontaneously developed out of psychiatric treatment for PTSD.

And yet, I have less faith in science than most people. I don't believe science is going to save us either. Without going into a lot of details, let's just say that I have not as a rule found men of science to be dispassionate seekers for the truth. Most of them have their own agendas and preconceived ideas, too. Science is just another religion, with faith in the scientific method and/or in man rather than in God.

So that leaves me with a religious upbringing that makes me suspicious by default of all such mummery; with stories of near death experiences that conflict in important ways; and with a gut feel that probably mediumship falls into that category of things that are not exactly gross, immoral or fattening, but not somehow the best either.

I have to agree with you that as ill-used and ill-served as I feel regarding the Protestant faith these days, it has one thing going for it ... no middle men are really required. I'm sticking with whatever insights I can glean on my own for now.

As to the matter of charging for consultations -- if they perform their services full time they have to live somehow. Even ministers of the gospel get a salary. You could argue that a medium should limit themselves to charging some minimal amount (of course every one will have their own definition of "minimal", usually connected with "less than will make me jealous"). But consider: if you put out a shingle and you are good enough that people are flocking to you in numbers far beyond what you could possibly see, what is going to naturally happen? You are going to raise your prices in order to turn the "faucet" down. You will end up with the really motivated and well-heeled supplicants, but that's not exactly a problem.

The prices will come down if more mediums enter the market. Apparently whether mediums are shysters or have actual talent, it's not that easy to do well. High demand, low supply = big bucks.

I am not going to cure people of the persistent fallacy that making a lot of money is inherently evil. If you believe that, you believe it. I don't. I've been poor and I've been, not rich, but certainly upper middle class, and I say with Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof: "It's no shame to be poor, but it's no great honor, either."

Of course some of these mediums may be the Jimmy Swaggarts and Jim Bakkers of their world, but that doesn't say anything about the merits of Charging "Too Much", nor does it have anything to do with the morality of mediumship. It just has to do with the character of the individual in question.

--Bob

[WendyJ]

I have to say that I am alittle upset at alot of the comments on what I did. First of all Christine Duminiak is not a medium, as I told you she is an After Death Communicator or an ADC which means she is a Grief Recovery Specialist and she helps you to understand and recognize any signs you may have recieved from a loved one who has past. She does not communicate with your loved one or do any channeling. She is also the founder of a well known on line prayer wave. She is very well known and has been on many radio and tv shows and was even recommended to me by Marty. Suzanne contacted a medium which I thought was fantastic and it helped her alot and I support her on her decision and as soon as I can afford it I may do that also. We have all discussed having signs from our loved ones so what was so wrong on me talking to someone about understanding the signs and how to know of other signs? When she had asked me about if I had anything electrical happen in the house I had told her that right after Steve had passed in a weeks time we had like 8 light bulbs blow out in our house, at the time I thought it was strange but she told me it is a very common way for loved ones to communicate, I did not know this until she told me. Geez guys when did this group become so critical fo what others do? I am very upset about this !

Wendy

[karenb]

I am sorry if anything I said might upset you. Like I said, I truly do respect other's feelings on these things. I've had those experiences on my own in years past. I am not critical for any measures or paths you take..I really am not and I hope I did not hurt your feelings. Go for what you feel.

Kare

[Stallyn]

Karen,

yes and I got maybe 40 more years of it, its neat when things happen positively around the house, Its a mix here, even when Myrna was alive things tend to happen alot, sometimes a demon would stand by the bed near her, or the thermostat was set down to 62 Deg, luckily at those times I didn't question the paranormal, lately I been experiencing odd things, this morning I woke up screaming, something having to do with battling demons, many of them were crowded around me attempting to take my life in a dream or ? I woke up and felt a sinister presence next to the side where Myrna used to sleep.

Bob, I may have the shorts too, I believe I may have witnessed more demonic activity than good in many places back when, and maybe it was result of my beliefs. I stand with you, science is mans way of salvation, and their motives are for personal gain, at the cost of someones wife or husband, I lost so much faith in doctors after her death, and indeed she communicated to me many times after her death, however is it possible we do not remember the communication consciously to risk denial or shame.

mediums, oddly they are something w/o a category, it can be said maybe we all are in some form or another, I have made predictions and it came to pass, or knew something was to happen hours before it occur, but I would not consider myself a medium or offer it as a service. Then again, strange things happened to me all my life, more than I care to reveal.

There was times I be driving down the street, and feel immense pressure on my chest, only to find I passed a palm reader, or somehow they find me. temptation often nudges me to walk in, but I feel if to do so, would open a door that is difficult to close.

If so called prophets or spiritualists speak something beneficial to humanity and without compensation, it would be more accepted perhaps.

It's enticing though to make some income in such a manner, but I couldn't do it for too long without feeling gutless.

[kayc]

Wendy,

I am sorry if anything I said offended you. The comments I made were out of concern because I don't like to see someone making an over amount of money off of other people's misfortune. However, as Bob pointed out, if she is at it full time, she needs to live and deserves to get something for her time...I just felt $60/hour was a bit much. I realize, however, that money is different in different parts of the country...here in Oregon that is nowhere near McDonald's wages.

I realize she is not a medium, I read her website, she is a grief recovery counselor and she prays with people and she helps people to recognize signs that are already there. That is a far cry from being a medium. Having gone to school to be a grief recovery counselor entitles her to some remuneration in itself, as does any education or degree that is employed, so I stand corrected on that point. I never meant to upset you or anyone else, I am skeptical because at my age I've seen just about anything and everything and I happen to be a bit cynical...unlike the young me that was sweet and gullible. It's just life and people that have brought that about in me, so don't pay any mind to me, okay? The others probably didn't look up her site and just assumed or misunderstood, no one feels you did something wrong at all! It is always good to learn something new, and that's all you did, and I should have kept my big mouth shut.

Goodnight you all...tomorrow's another day, thank heavens for fresh starts!

KayC

[DesertBob]

Hi Wendy,

I wouldn't judge you even if Christine was a medium. I'm sorry if I was foggy on that point though.

I am glad that she encouraged you. The things you are describing would not have that impact on me, but we're all different.

I have nothing but respect for your journey and more than that for your courage and willingness to move forward. How you go about it is your business. Don't change anything because of anyone's comments, but recognize that mediums and to a lesser extent ADC are not exactly without controversy and therefore they will challenge some people's comfort zone and/or established belief systems and there will be some debate about it. But don't take it personally ... we all love you.

Right, guys?

Best,

--Bob

[Stallyn]

Wendy,

I apologize again if I got carried away with my comments, it was of concern but a mistake. I respect your feelings and if it brings comfort to you to talk to Christine, most importantly it is what you needed. I hope the end result of this is not bitterness. I have had many similar things and then some, bulbs blew out in the bathroom twice, glasses "fell" off the sink and broke, the other day I was washing dishes and placed a glass on top another and it just cracked for no logical reason, even my counselor was witness to lights blinking or doors moving. Sorry..

Yes, I stand with Bob, We love you.........