If You're Going Through Hell

[kayc]

11 hours ago, KarenK said:

I hope your order gets resolved soon and you're not ripped off.

Not looking likely because the person will close their bank account and have nothing there for eBay/Paypal to refund me, now is the time it needs resolved, not two months from now when quarantine is over. It's a Singapore tracking number and their listing stated USA/USPS.  It was a scam.  I think they used this vulnerable time knowing eBay would not be around watching things and helping people.

Karen, day 1 of the snowpocolypse last year I came down with an infection, no water to bathe with, couldn't talk to the doctor, let alone go there, it was bad timing.  I still hope the doctor will do something for you.  So wrong!

10 hours ago, Gwenivere said:

 Any kind of proof?

I have a copy of my receipt but since they removed the listing, no proof of it stating USA not Singapore, or their history the prior week.  Tried reporting through eBay but none of their premade forms cover suspicion of fraudulent listing.  If I could talk to an employee I could get some help but they aren't there.  I went through my credit card/Paypal but not sure I can get anywhere there either w/o messing up my Paypal account and no one is there either.  What a time to go through this!

I have a doctor's appt 4/6 for a physical, will be surprised if they don't cancel it.  Also a dermatology appt same day, need to see them as I have two suspicious spots ( possible skin cancer), been waiting since Feb. to get referral and appt and can't afford to put it off until after this Coronavirus is over.  I don't have the bandwidth for televisits, I've been viewing more stuff at my Diabetic Group and that's taken a lot of my allotment, this slow speed internet is killing me!

In addition to the cranberry juice, yogurt with acidophilus.   I don't know if there's any health food stores open but they sell it in liquid form, if not, go for the yogurt with it.  If you hate yogurt, sweeten it with berries & honey.  Cotton underwear for air.  I hope it gets better soon!  Not fun, ever!

 

 

 

 

[iPraiseHim]

22 hours ago, KarenK said:

Kevin, so sorry to hear of another setback. If only our kids could understand the heartbreak......

Blast it! I seem to have another UTI. Called the doctor and of course he won't prescribe without a urine sample. Office called back and said he is doing televisits?. Not sure what you call them, but my computer does not have a camera. Waiting for another callback. I'm not in a lot of pain, but very uncomfortable.

I just had another UTI from this medicine I suspect.  I am curious how a televisit is going to work for a UTI. I had blood in my urine and you could take a photo of that.  Fortunately, I call my Dr and he just refilled the script without a doctor's visit in this COVID19 climate.  It is very uncomfortable pain. Praying they order some medicine for you soon. Shalom (Peace)

 

[KarenK]

George,

Go figure? I told the receptionist the symptoms, even asked to speak to the PA, but she was gone. I told her I could speak to the doctor on the phone or communicate on the computer, just no camera. She said he was scheduling televisits. Maybe that's the only way he can get paid.

[Gwenivere]

I’m really appalled at how you are being treated, or rather not treated by your doctor, Karen. Other things happen besides the virus that need medical attention.  Not everyone can do televisits.  I would think they would, in this case, prescribe antibiotics just in case.  If you need them and don’t get them soon, it could turn into a kidney infection.  My insurance isn’t even charging for televisits as it isn’t a true visit if you can’t be examined.  They can’t examine me, but at least I can get some feedback.  I truly hope your doc comes around in some way to uphold their oath.    

[kayc]

I wouldn't have the first clue how to do a televisit, don't even have Skype here.  It would be convenient if it worked, but some things they need to see.  Inside Edition showed it last night the doctor looking into the person's throat...it can't be as clear as it would be in person.  They can't listen to your heart beat or take your blood pressure or weigh you.  There's a lot they'd miss.  Seems to me a UA being dropped off should be enough.  Is it all about money?

[kevin]

Thanks for all of your messages...she is now in lockdown psycho ward...Paranoid as hell, everyone is out to get her(same old story)....It will take three for days for meds to kick in.....not going to be discharged anytime soon (I hope).... stay safe and distanced

[Margm]

I just had to turn the TV to "Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole" off of the news.  I woke up at noon, missed my church services, and I appreciate them putting church on TV, there are many that are "shut in's" and not just because of crippling illness.  

This grief causes fear to be magnified.  I had not been to the store in a week.  I had enough still (thank goodness for my tax return), When my fear gets this bad, taking a Xanax won't help.  My hours have changed.  I used to be an early riser and in bed by 11:00 p.m.  No more.  If I am in bed by 2:00 a.m., I am doing good.  I really hate doing that, but I have to have time to read.  I did lose my concentration to read again for awhile.  Now that does worry me.  

We were getting low on things so I was determined to go to Walmart.  I know, I am an "at risk" person.  My sister wore a mask sprayed with Lysol when she went.  I expected to see hazmat suits, but all I saw were everyday people doing their regular grocery shopping and all Walmart employees in their regular garb.  One time a customer saw me come down the same aisle as she was on and she quickly disappeared.  In the grocery aisles we were shopping cart dodging in all aisles.  All the while, there were Walmart employees trying to restock the shelves.  I had enough TP but needed paper towels.  They were guarded, and as usual, I only took one package.  I found everything I was looking for.

I will note, I was so paranoid (smart???) that I took my Lysol spray with me.  I sprayed my purse and every inch of my clothes before I went in, shoes, bottom of shoes.  When I finished, I loaded the groceries, sprayed the sacks, then sprayed the steering wheel, my cushion (I'm short) my seat entirely, my clothes again, head to bottom of feet.  I got home, got groceries in, sprayed over them before putting them up, put my clothes in the washer, and this is the first time I found bacterial soap of any kind.  They had my Dial antibacterial bar soap well stocked.  So, I showered and put on clean clothes.  

In the meantime, they are not praised enough, we have people working, wearing their everyday uniforms, nothing to ward off this virus.  And me, I am just the average paranoid shopper that could be bringing my germs/viruses to these innocent people.  

And yes, we have a lot to be afraid of.  If we were at war with another country the generals would lead, now we are at war with a virus and the medical generals should at least be able to work under conditions that they will not die on the front lines.  But, they are.  Let people who know how to run hospitals, who know how to order enough equipment and supplies, let them lead this battle instead of political factions that only know how to fight each other.  Sorry...........I did mention politics.  

[KarenK]

A church here in the metro area was giving out 2400 rolls of toilet paper today. I wonder if 5000 people showed up for it. I also wonder where they got 2400 rolls of toilet paper.

A couple of days ago, I read that grocery stores are going to install plexiglass between cashiers and customers. And time matches on.....

[Gwenivere]

4 hours ago, kayc said:

  Is it all about money?

I don’t think it is about money.  I think we are seeing what happens when people have to fight a very scary enemy they cannot see and are barraged with anxiety producing information that sounds worse every day.  Being forced by nature and the virus to not trust anyone to be around.  All my docs are going to video and insurance is dropping patient co pays.  I’m assuming the docs still get paid as they are working.  This is all new territory both physically and mentally.  I can’t speak to the troubles Karen is having except to say I don’t know any docs that are seeing patients in person right now.  

28 minutes ago, KarenK said:

A couple of days ago, I read that grocery stores are going to install plexiglass between cashiers and customers. And time matches on.....

I hope they do as I would hate to lose being able to get my groceries myself and the checkers deserve to be protected.  I make sure to thank them for being there.  It’s more new information keeps marching on. The once projected 80,000 deaths is now 1-200,000.  It’s all so confusing as I hear this but that we’ve leveled out if we keep the present protocol.  

Marg, I saw a woman yesterday doing what you did.  I also had received a video about how to sanitize groceries when you got home and the recommendation to change clothes and shower.  I guess I’m taking risks as I don’t do the extreme sanitation beyond washing produce and of course washing my hands.  I’m not putting boxed items and bread, for example, into other containers.  

My xanax isn’t as affective as this paranoia rules everything.  That then snowballs as I have to deal with extra anxiety and internal fear.  My whole digestion is messed up and it’s a struggle every day mentally to got thru.  Having so much pain is also frightening.  There’s just too many hours in the day now with so much cancelled to be aware of all this.  I was reading mental health specialists are suggesting keeping your normal wake, sleep, eating time to try and keep some semblance of normal in our lives.  That is what I have been doing.  It’s too easy to slip into patterns that actually disrupt our thinking.  

[kevin]

In the North winter is back with " Sheila's Brush" again..last snow storm after St Patty's day...It's Sheila sweeping out the last of Winter....Those plexiglass screens are all up here in the Super markets in the last week..And the stores were re stocked so I've been told..Gas prices down 30%. Got word Daughter still crazy and wants to end it all, I passed it on to Head Nurse she has suicidal thoughts and what she said...now on "double watch" and nothing sharp in her room....7 more days and Global warming might kick in...all have a good evening( cleaned my keyboard and keys are sticking)   haha  

[Margm]

Kevin, I'm sorry; and I'm sorrier to say I know exactly what you are going through.  Unfortunately, my son had to go through it with his son and we are only getting good news now and can only hope and pray it stays good news.  You've got her in a good place.  Both my kids are bipolar and I talked to my daughter's physician and told him my fears.  He told me if it was something she was going to do I couldn't stop it.  I never gave up though.  A few months later the psychiatrist went the suicide route.  Guess he knew the feeling.  

We've had A/C on this week.  

[Gwenivere]

So sorry to hear about your daughter and it sounding worse.  I hope she pulls out of this and finds some peace in her mind.  My thoughts are with you.

good news about the groceries.  I did my shopping today and so few people there.  Never seen a Sunday so slow.  Means people are taking this seriously.  Our hopes in. Washington is to level out for a few weeks.  Don’t want to end up like New York which us being slammed with new cases.  Still limits on basics per person, but livable.

[kayc]

  22 hours ago, kayc said:

  Is it all about money?

I don’t think it is about money. 

What I meant was Karen's doctor making her do televisit instead of just dropping off a UA specimen.  So he can be paid, because otherwise all he'd get is for the UA, not an OV which they get paid even if televisit.

I heard mail is safe because it doesn't live on paper, I hope not, who knows.

Marg, you had A/C on this week and I shoveled snow, ha!  don't like extreme weather, would that it were 50-70's all year!  Today it's windy and sprinkling a little.  Don't mind a little rain, we need it.  They can keep the snow further up the mountain, here it melts anyway.

Karen, no plexiglass here yet but that IS a great idea!  Would that they'd all adopt it.  

Today I read that a man in the valley threw his dog from over his head to the floor, slamming her...she cried as he was doing it and afterwards, then was quiet.  She was a mama to a litter of puppies.  They never keep animal abusers in jail.  Maybe someone will do him the same, who knows, I can't bear the thought of someone abusing the innocent.  Made me hold Kodie a little closer to me.  They took the dog to a vet but her puppies are still there so someone else must be living there.  Need to remove them all as he'll get out and come back there, makes me sick.  

 @kevin    I'm so sorry about your daughter but hopefully this will protect her during this time.  It breaks my heart that anyone can feel like she's feeling.                                                                         

 

 

[Margm]

  We hit a patch over 20 years before he passed away where we could discuss everything without hard feelings, where trust was rebuilt, and I found the best friend a person could ever have.  Nothing was ever thrown up by either of us of the wrongs, the hurts we did to each other, and our kids too.  

When we first married, I became friends with his friends, and one of my own friends married a boy from his group of friends.  We all went places, played cards, visited until all the kids started coming and then we were still close.  One of his best friends is in the nursing home, has been for two years.  His wife is there first thing every morning and leaves at evening.  Now she cannot visit him at all.  This virus has killed and has torn families away from each other.  

And my heart hurts so much for my friend, and another good friend is hanging on by  a thread.  Her's is cancer.  

There is a story to be told behind every moment in time, every person we know, or that we used to know.  I am so sorry.   

[kayc]

It is heartbreaking for families wrenched apart by this virus.

[Gwenivere]

So true, Kay.  People cannot even see their loved ones who are dying in person.  They’re using face time on computers for those that are coherent.  Couples are not even supposed to get close at home but I don’t know anyone doing that.  Everything is potentially a threat and that’s hard to live with.  One could go for groceries and bring something home.  Yesterday it was about walking thru air after someone sneezed.  Today I read not to get all freaked out about that as the study was done in a lab with aerosol contagion.  When people sneeze the droplets are too heavy to stay in the air.  Should only be a concern for health care workers that have to break the 6 foot distance.  Just like they changed you don’t have to sanitize your groceries beyond produce which one would do anyway.  Each day creates more stress and I wonder how people will handle it.  It’s taken over the news with grim death tolls.  People will become frantic they won’t be able to get food or medication.  We’ve all seen how crazy people can go when rational thinking is stretched to its limits.  I guess that is my fear.  That this will become more than a physical crisis.  It’s mentally challenging as it is now.  I’m looking at it more than just families but as humanity itself.  I wish I could just have.a long, beneficial cry in Steve’s arms.  Crying creates dopamine to calm and relax people.  For some reason I can’t cry lately.  I want to but it shuts down on me.  The timing for that is terrible.

[widow'15]

44 minutes ago, Gwenivere said:

 For some reason I can’t cry lately.  I want to but it shuts down on me.  The timing for that is terrible.

Oh Gwen, yes crying does help and please know I will shed tears for you until you can.  Hugs, Dee 😢

[Kieron]

Ugh, it just dawned on me that today would be the monthly support group, locally, and it would be cancelled, for obvious reasons.  Crap.  😒

[kayc]

18 hours ago, Gwenivere said:

Couples are not even supposed to get close at home

I heard Dr Oz say the opposite.  But that was a couple of weeks ago, has it changed?  Families ARE sharing space together, getting close.  That's what's so hard about those of us going through this alone.  Hoping this is over by my granddaughter's fifth birthday but I'd be surprised if it was, they will likely have to have her party a month late for extended family.  Here is a video of my granddaughter's prayer "for all of the sick people:"

18 hours ago, Gwenivere said:

When people sneeze the droplets are too heavy to stay in the air.  Should only be a concern for health care workers that have to break the 6 foot distance.

 

 

Except now researchers said a sneeze traveled 27' with it.  I don't know that any of us are safe with it if we get groceries or work.

I see people breaking the rules...they don't realize that they are expanding their chances of getting it with each person they're around....they've potentially been with each person THAT person has been around.

[MartyT]

11 minutes ago, kayc said:

I wish I could share her prayer for "all the sick people" here but only have it on Facebook and don't know how to save it to my computer from that.  Anyone who wants to view it can go to my facebook page as I made it public, it was a couple of days ago or so...Kay Oxford.

Absolutely precious, dear Kay! Obviously this little one takes after her grandmother! Thank you for sharing! ❤️

[KarenK]

A miracle happened at my house today. Robert was actually able to get us a 6 mega roll pack of TP! Was getting a little worried as we were down to our last 2 rolls. He had looked 4 places yesterday, no luck, but Walgreens was getting a shipment today, not sure if it contained TP. He went early and stood in line outside and was able to grab a pack when they opened. Safe for another month. Still bare grocery shelves in stores for so many common items.

Read something interesting my grandson showed me. It seems that last Oct. John's Hopkins hosted a mock coronavirus exercise. Of course they say they weren't predicting one...........Just a coincidence or are we all part of an "experiment" gone wrong?  Just sayin'..............

[widow'15]

2 hours ago, KarenK said:

Robert was actually able to get us a 6 mega roll pack of TP!

Yahoo, Robert.  Good job looking out for your family.  Dee

[MartyT]

Miracles never cease! Happy for you, dear Karen 

[widow'15]

15 hours ago, kayc said:

Here is a video of my granddaughter's prayer "for all of the sick people:"

kayc:  Your granddaughter is so adorable and her sweet prayer is lovely.  Sorry the birthday will probably be postponed.  I know you miss seeing your family.   Dee

[kayc]

17 hours ago, KarenK said:

Safe for another month.

Just an idea I saw on Inside Edition, if you're having a hard time finding TP, try ordering from Office Suppliers, they have commercial ones that aren't in as high demand right now, won't fit your holder, but you can set it on top of the tank so it's close by.